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Friday, June 13, 2008
I'm not sure if you noticed, but the Yanks have serious pitching issues.

Both the rotation and the bullpen have taken a beating this season, with everything from injuries to shocking failures to Jobamania's departure from the 'pen that left the Yanks with a huge hole in the 8th inning spot hitting the team hard. They've been doing their best to piece together the pitching staff and offer run support for the struggling Pettitte and Wangster, but many a game has been lost due to the struggling pitching staff.

Obviously, something needs to be done about this unfortunate situation, and quick. The Yanks have been struggling just to keep their heads above water, and if the pitching staff can't pitch well enough to keep the team in the game and give them a chance to win the Yanks are going to have a hard time topping the Sox and Rays and weaseling their way into the playoffs (sidenote: who would have thought the words "Rays" and "playoffs" would wind up in the same sentance? Without the words "no chance?"). 1 or 2 games over .500 isn't going to cut it when as we get closer to the finishing line.

What is the solution, then? During the off-season they were hesitant to trade Hughes, Kennedy, Melky, or even Cano - at least one of whom would most likely be desired by any team willing to trade a decent pitcher - but now that they've experienced such pitching problems their stance may have changed. There is speculation that the Indians might put C.C. Sabathia on the block soon, since they have very little chance of making a playoff run themselves and would be wise to score a few youngsters in exchange for a guy that is going to be a free agent after the season anyway. Another possibility could be Colorado reliever Brian Fuentes, who could fill that 8th-inning slot. While it'd be a bust to trade away fan favorites like the Melkster and Robby, it seems to me that a bolstering the pitching staff is going to be key to the Yanks (hopeful) success this season.

Would you be willing to trade one of the aforementioned players in exchange for Fuentes or a half-year rental of Sabathia? Or would it break your tender heart to lose a beloved youngster?

Discuss!

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posted by Yankees Chick @ Friday, June 13, 2008  
14 Comments:
  • At 9:55 AM, Anonymous mets guy said…

    I think trading a Melky/Kennedy type player is reasonable, but the Yanks would really need to sign the player they get in return to an extension. The last thing you want is to dump off a young player for a rental. Luckily, extending a contract only costs money, which the Yankees have plenty of :)

     
  • At 9:57 AM, Anonymous yankyclpr said…

    I personally would give up Cano. Tons of upside on the man, but we have a young infielder ready to play. If it meant getting CC or even Brad Penny, his name is out there right now, I am for that. I would rather have CC, he is younger.

    I am scared to get another reliever from Colorado. La Troy gas can Hawkins, came from there, and he is very good at grooving pitches!

    Just a thought!

     
  • At 11:44 AM, Anonymous Scott Sargent said…

    I would be more concerned with the fact that the Indians would have to be willing to accept said players. They have the price-setting leverage here...at least while they're only 6 games out.

    Things can obviously change given time...

     
  • At 11:44 AM, Anonymous Scott Sargent said…

    I would be more concerned with the fact that the Indians would have to be willing to accept said players. They have the price-setting leverage here...at least while they're only 6 games out.

    Things can obviously change given time...

     
  • At 1:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    One thing to be concerned about is whether or not the Yankees actually have the prospects to attain CC at this point.

    The Twins didn't take the Melky, Hughes, Kennedy package for Johan, and the perception of Hughes and Kennedy has plummetted since then. When the Johan deal was finished, it was pretty much a common agreement the Yankees had the best formal offer (since the Red Sox giving up Ellsbury and Buchholz was purely a smoke screen).

    Mark Shapiro is probably the smartest GM in baseball, and if the Twins turned down that trade, Shapiro probably knows everything that made the Twins shy away as well.

     
  • At 2:13 PM, Blogger The Vert Man said…

    I doubt a combination of Melky, Kennedy or Hughes is gonna look very promising at this point. Who knows what Indians will think but CC is a very valueable commodity and I would think the Indians would want Cano and Melky at this point.

    First time visitor, Cubs fans btw.

     
  • At 2:26 PM, Anonymous TribeFan48 said…

    Alright, I'm an Indians fan posting on, and reading, a pro-Yankees website. Hmmm...What are the odds? Anyways, the Tribe is in trouble. With Martinez and Barfield now on the DL, something needs to be done to shake up this team. I've been very for trading Sabathia since the off-season. With Cleveland's pitching depth both at the majors and minors (Adam Miller, Chuck Lofgren), Sabathia is very expendable. I feel that there are 5 teams that Sabathia should be traded to. The Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Angels. Those 5 teams not only could take CC and have the prospects to trade, but also have the cash to re-sign him. As far as the Yankees go prospect wise, there are a few names that are intriguing that I would willingly accept. Obviously, Joba would not be traded. He's your untouchable. Hughes can't be traded because he's injured and on the disabled list. So what does that leave us with? Jose Tabata, Alan Horne, and Austin Jackson are in my mind 3 of the top Yankee prospects. Robbie Cano is also a possibility. Cleveland has a ton of depth at OF, so Melky likely would not be a candidate. I liked that kid who stepped up for Jeter (I can't remember his name) early in the season. He would also be something that could be pawned off on Cleveland.

    I am very critical of Shapiro at times. He is way to conservative with trades, which is proving to be a bad thing. After 2005, he did nothing to bring in a big name. After last season he had a chance to trade for Jason Bay, who is swinging a good stick right now. It's proving to be a mistake, considering how poor our offense is, and that the player Huntington (Pirates GM) wanted is now injured for the season.

    Anyways, I figured I would throw in my two cents. I didn't plan on writing a book, but I did. Good luck the rest of the way.

     
  • At 4:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    DEFINELY THE YANKEESHAVE TO GO AFTER C.C. PROPOSE THIS FOR SABATHIA(MELKMAN,KENNEDY AND A PROSPECT TYPE B LIKE JEFF MARQUEZ, AND THEN GO FOR THE EXTENCION MAYBE 4 OR 5 YEAR. NOW WE GO AFTER ONE SET UP MAN ONE LIKE HUSTON STREET. HES 24 MO 39 AND 3 YEAR DEAL TOU CAN SAY TO HIM YOYU MUST THE SET UP FOR HIM ONLY 3 YEAR WHEN HE RETIRE YOU WILL BE THE CLOSER FOR THE YANKEES. NOW I PROPOSE THIS MARK MELANCON TYPE B PROSPECT AND STREET. IM NOT FINISH YET!! I PROMOVE J.B. COX TO THE MAJORS FOR THE BULLPEN THAT LEAVE THE YANKEES WITH NICE BULLPEN AND STRONG ROTATION:
    1-C.C. SABATHIA
    2-CHIEN MING WANG
    3-ANDY PETTITE
    4-JOBA RULES
    5-MIKE "REJUVENATOR" MUSSINA
    GOOD TRIO FOR THE PLAY OFFS
    YOU ASK ME ABOUT PHILL HUGHES? I SEND HIM TO AAA THE REST OF YEAR, IF HE DO THE WORK VERY WELL I PROMOTED TO THE BULLPEN FOR THE PLAY OFFS, AFTER ALL HES NOT READY FOR THE MAJORS YET!!!!

     
  • At 8:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    2009 Rotation
    1. C.C. Sabathia
    2. C. Wang
    3. M.Mussina
    4. Joba Chamberlain
    5. P.Hughes/I.Kennedy/D.Rasner

     
  • At 10:57 PM, Blogger Broken Arrow said…

    Melky and Robbie will, or at least, should be, franchise players.

    An IPK/Hughes/A-Gonz package would be a great deal both the Tribe and the Yankees, and would make us contenders this year, and the Indians contenders next year or 2010.

    However, it will never happen, in spite of the fact that the Attorney General has no future in New York, A-Rod and El Capitain are locked in for the next ten years. In spite of the fact that Chief Wahoo's Tribe will not drop the wampum to reup CC next year.

    Even though Farnsworthless (doom-doom, doom-doom, doom-doom, doom-dooooommm...) got his first save in over a year and a half, he is the weakest link (excepting Pavano, natch). Throw him into an IPK/Hughes/A-Gonz package and make space for The Spirit Coordinator, who should - if this was a just world - inherit first base next year.

    But, at the end of the day (I hate that phrase but overuse it, nonetheless), trading for CC *MAY* win the division. Trading for decent middle relief *SHOULD* win the division....

     
  • At 11:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    If the Yanks traded Cano away, it be the biggest mistake Cashman, would ever make. Cano is a second half player, the numbers will get there. I wouldn't mind seeing a Melky/Kennedy trade for CC. it would just be Kennedy/cash for Fuentes.

    Aug 1st. 2008 Pitching Staff (Prediction)

    1. Wang
    2. CC
    3. Joba
    4. Moose
    5. Hughes

    Pen (Prediction)
    Mop up man - Hawkins
    Long Man - Rasner
    Middle Men - Veras / Edwar
    Setup - Crazy Kyle / Veras?
    Closer - Mo

    Lineup (Prediction)
    1. Damon - CF
    2. Jeter - SS
    3. Abreu - RF
    4. Rod - 3B
    5.Godzilla - LF
    6. Giambino - DH
    7. Posada - C
    8. Robby - 2B
    9. Betemit - 1B

     
  • At 10:33 AM, Blogger jvwalt said…

    If the Yankees offered Melky and Kennedy for Sabathia, Mark Shapiro should immediately hang up. Kennedy hasn't proven a thing yet -- and really, neither has Melky. He's still young enough to improve, but so far his offensive numbers are in the good-glove-shortstop range. If the Yankees weren't so desperate for centerfield defense, Melky would be exactly what his numbers suggest: a good fourth outfielder. Cleveland certainly has no use for him, with Sizemore firmly ensconced in CF.

     
  • At 1:57 AM, Blogger Sully said…

    I pose a question to Yankee fans on my blog today

    http://sullybaseball.blogspot.com/2008/06/while-i-am-eating-this-crow-i-have.html

     
  • At 3:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    first of all to the guy who said melky is a fourth outfielder what are u talking about just because he doesnt hit 20 hr dosnt mean he is bad he steals 15-20 bases hit 10 12 hr hits 275 280 with 75 tbi now when has a backup outfielder done that 275 12 75 20 not to bad plus gold glvoe defnese and now abotu the cc trade yankees shoudl do it and extaend a contract they should offer kennedy/jeffrey marquez mabey alberto gonzalez or josa tabta and kennedy and who sais they have depth at the outfield they have choo who is hittign 300 in 44 abats starting and in lf they have ben fransico ? david deluci 220 avg gutieriz 250 18 rbi thats not to deep to me at east talent wise and the yankees have to young stud outfielders in jackson and tabta they wouldnt mind trading melky a smart trade for both teams is melky/kennedy/gonzolez he can play ss 2b and 3b and indains need help at 2b it would give them kenendy who has good stuff yankees get cc ace and now they can have melky dammon and abreu in the outfield dammon can catch but cant throw abreu has a good arm and matsui can aonly hit that keeps giambi in the dh role so they get better defnes at first with bettimet so it equals out there and next year they sighn texiara now they yankees will have texira and cc to the 2009 team

    yankes 2009 lineup prediction
    dammon
    jeter
    texiera
    a-rod
    abreu
    giambi
    matsui/austin jackson possibly wich then would leave gimabi and matsui switching of at dh
    posada
    cano
    pitching 2009
    cc
    wang
    joba
    pettie
    hughes
    mussina
    6 man rotation keep the arms fresh

     
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