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| You've Confused Me |
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 |
No one can argue that it has been a most tumultuous season for the dear Yankees (and for us fans, who have been subjected to nothing short of grim torture as we watch each and every wayward pitch, strikeout, failed stolen base attempt, and broken hand), and people have found been no shortage of scapegoats to blame for the exorbitant number of unexpected losses. Obviously while various players were slumping – Abreu, Cano, Demon, Giambi, Kevin Maas, et al – we could toss some blame in their respective directions, and the Cash Man took the fall for some bad deals (see Pavano, Carl and -ina, Moose), but Mr. Joe “Turn That Hallmark Commercial Off, I Might Cry” Torre has been hit the hardest with the wrath of fans and media-folk. There have been firing rumors swirling around the Torrester every year after the Yankees blew it in the post-season (AKA every year since 2000), and while the Yanks were struggling (AKA failing miserably and embarrassing us all just by association) earlier in the season one would have been hard-pressed to find a person willing to defend the poor old man ( except me!). So what, pray tell, are we to make of this: ----CONTENDER: Joe Torre, Yankees: This is the second time in three seasons that Torre's calm-but-forceful leadership has steered the Yankees back from the brink of early-season disaster. In 2005, when he drove a team that was under .500 as late as June 14 to its eighth straight division title, he received third-place support. ----He was Public Enemy #1 back in May, but now that the team is on the winning side of life (thank God/Allah/Moses/Greg Graffin), he's on the short list for Baseball Hero? I love the dear man, but as much as I certainly don't think he deserved all the blame during the tough times, it seems equally silly and unfair to reward him for the team's subsequent success. Am I wrong, my delightful friends (never!)? Labels: front office, haha...ha., pavano must die |
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yea.. actually i do think youre wrong. i have been wondering why he was out of the conversation for this long actually. everyone seems to forget how many rookie pitchers we had to throw out there in order to 'stabilize' our rotation. now i do agree somewhat with the 'torre probably wasnt responsible for the bad, so he might not be responsible for the good', but this is the way that manager of the year has been judged since inception (or at least until i started watching it anyway). how do you know that the same doesn't apply for all the rest of the managers in contention? one could argue that the indians have been underproducing all year...
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I'm completely with namstai here. I would also add though a point that I have never read in context of a manager's value. Joe Torre, although flawed (e.g. overusing bullpens, pinch running to early, etc.), is significantly better than nearly every manager I see compete against the Yankees. Some of them I can't help but laugh at the fact that they have these jobs. Take John Gibbons in Toronto, who changes pitchers every two batters from inning 6 on. Or Ozzie Guillen who pisses his team off as much as he motivates them. Even if we as a fanbase don't agree with Joe on every point, he is significantly better than nearly every other manager.
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Yankee haters constantly need something to talk about. If isn't Joe Torre being fired, its questioning if Rivera is in decline because he gave up a single run. If Torre goes anywhere it will be because he wants to, unless the Yankees don't make the post season, then the sleeping giant in the main office might get angry.
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Mo...first off, what an UGLY game tonight. That one, for real, hurts, haha. Second - Greg Grafin has NOTHING to do with the Yankees. NOTHING! Did you by chance catch them on Conan the other night? pretty good for dudes old enough to be retired, haha.
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yea.. actually i do think youre wrong. i have been wondering why he was out of the conversation for this long actually. everyone seems to forget how many rookie pitchers we had to throw out there in order to 'stabilize' our rotation. now i do agree somewhat with the 'torre probably wasnt responsible for the bad, so he might not be responsible for the good', but this is the way that manager of the year has been judged since inception (or at least until i started watching it anyway). how do you know that the same doesn't apply for all the rest of the managers in contention? one could argue that the indians have been underproducing all year...