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Still Surprised
Thursday, October 18, 2007
Still in a smidge of shock about the Torre developments. My conspiracy theory of choice: Big and Little Steins never had any intention of re-signing him, but they didn't want to fire him - they actually have a little respect for the man and know that they would incur the wrath of gazillions of fans; additionally, whoever came in to manage next year would be under such incredible scrutiny it might be unsurmountable. Instead, they agreed with Torre that they would make him an offer that he would then reject, allowing the IYDs (Important Yankees Dudes, remember?) to look slightly less douchebaggish and Torre to maintain dignity.

On the other hand, maybe Torre had just had enough. Or wanted to go write a juicy book about the inner workings of the Evil Empire.

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posted by Yankees Chick @ Thursday, October 18, 2007  
  • At 2:59 PM, Blogger Ian said…

    It's a sad day in baseball no matter what team you root for. I am glad he told them to f' themselves. I'm still shocked though.

    Personally I think it's going to be Girardi. He's got the experience and his style is conducive to what the Yanks want.

  • At 3:02 PM, Anonymous Brian said…

    I see my mom reads your blog too...And all of a sudden shes a retarded overly-optimistic red sox fan O_o...

    I never thought id say this, but screw torre! WHAT ABOUT POSADA?! Who the hell is gonna replace him if he leave?!

    To replace Torre, Torre jr sounds good, Joe II (Giaradi), im a bit ehhh... about, but as long as its not Dusty Baker. I hate that guy.

  • At 5:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Wow. I kind of agree with your conspiracy theory. I think I want Girardi because he's got the experience, but I wouldn't mind Mattingly either. It just BETTER be one of them. BTW, I'm usually on LoHud Blogs but this is my backup since that one's f-ed!

  • At 6:05 PM, Anonymous The Other Grady in Ohio said…

    Funny.....I vividly remember that I was NOT happy when I heard that they had hired Joe Torre to replace Showalter.
    Sad to see him go now, because he's a class act and has presided over some great times. But I have questioned his game decisions more and more in recent years.

  • At 7:36 PM, Anonymous lyle said…

    Everyone has their day; Joe had lots of them. He was paid at a huge premium compared all other managers. Look at his managing record pre-Yankees, certainly a portion of credit should go to the front office who got him the players over the years but it seems like people would rather bitch about the Steins.

    I was watching Francona getting pissed off & arguing the homerun (single) by Manny and I thought I don't know if I ever saw Torre be that intense about anything.

    But lets look to the future- I'm hoping Mattingly or Girardi. It would be nice to keep Posada, Rivera, Arod around but the nature of this is it is a business just ask Bor-ass!!!

  • At 9:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This is a sad day but good for Joe for going out on his own terms. I'm very sad to see this happen and ashamed at how the Yankees handle it. He deserved more. Joe will be a Hall of Famer as a Yankee.

  • At 9:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This is a sad day but good for Joe for going out on his own terms. I'm very sad to see this happen and ashamed at how the Yankees handle it. He deserved more. Joe will be a Hall of Famer as a Yankee.


  • At 9:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    It doesn't matter!

    Either way the Yankees have a ridiculous payroll of rich all-stars so self-involved that no one can lead them to a world series.

    And a management of Uday and Qusay...I mean Hank and Hal which means the Yankees are doomed for the next decade.

    (Go Sox!)

  • At 1:46 AM, Anonymous Chris said…

    Time moves on. No manager in the history of the Yankees has ever gone out on his own terms. That's just not the way it works. Look, I appreciate as much as anybody what Joe accomplished but all good things come to an end. It's time for new blood, the Yankees need to get younger players and have a younger manager to lead them.

  • At 6:39 AM, Anonymous BB said…

    I am gonna miss Torre. Now who's going to burn out the young pitchers and put in the shitty relievers during close games?

    Oh and by the way - Sox in 7.

    and here's the obligatory yankees suck, don't want to ruin my reputation..

  • At 6:44 AM, Blogger hungchow said…

    Yankees Chick...Love the blog. As a Yankee fan in Alabama, need all the Yanks info I can get.

    What's your take on Girardi's personality fit with NYY? Didn't he yell at the Marlins owner during a game? That wouldn't fly with any of the Steins.

  • At 8:43 AM, Anonymous Patrick said…

    Yankee chick, 1st time here, excellent site. Torre was a incredible manager for you Yankees.I believe he'll be really appreciated of what he accomplish while with the yankees, once the new manager has a couple of years into it.I'm not talking payroll, he be a success w/a $85 mil payroll.INTANGIBLES.Chick whats Boston chances gm#6 Patrick from BOSTON

  • At 10:04 AM, Anonymous Cool (baseball) Beans in Boston said…


    Why do you care what Chick thinks about the Red Sox chances in game 6? If she had her way the Sox would have gone down 0-4 to the Indians.

    If you want to ask her out, just ask her out.

    Sox in 7! Much to the dismay of every Yankee fan.

    Tough being the best team in baseball when you're the Boston Red Sox!

  • At 12:53 PM, Blogger Adrian said…

    Levine is a disgusting oaf of a man. Every time I see his face I want to vomit.

    It seems to me that there's clearly something screwed up inside the ownership of this club, and that the Steinbrothers may turn out to have the dictatorial impulses of their father, but with none of the courage that characterized his ruthlessness. Ruthless, slimy, and cowardly are the words that come to my mind when I think of how this affair was handled. Yes, Joe was clearly on a hook, and yes, there was a case to be made for letting him go. But there was no reason at all to try and hang this on him, especially given what he's meant to thousands of Yankees fans over more than a decade.

  • At 4:15 PM, Anonymous Lyle said…

    You people whose hearts are bleeding for Torre. I would love to say my boss - I'm insulted by a $5 million salary (give me a friggin' break).

    His career managing record pre-Yankees was 894-1003 and with the Yankees it was 1173-767. So lets not forget the organization was left in good shape when Showalter was prematurely f**ked over.

  • At 8:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Is this the Yankees Chick who compared Torre's contract offer to an abused wife on Pete Abe's blog?

    Go get married, then have your husband abuse you and see if it feels the same.

    You stupid bitch. Comments like that make all of us women look bad.

  • At 9:02 PM, Blogger Yankees Chick said…

    For the record, the joke I made was that Torre was taking a stand against Stein after all the years of being under-appreciated and strung along after every year his own team blew it in the post-season.

    In case anyone thought I was serious, let me make it clear that I certainly was not actually comparing a job or a boss or a contract or anything of the sort to actual abuse. It was a joke, an analogy... nothing more. I honestly apologize if I offended you.

    Had you been kind enough to post your name instead of hiding your attacks on me under an "anonymous" cover, I would write you a personal apology email.

  • At 6:06 AM, Anonymous Chris said…

    I agree with what somebody here said about Levine. He's the real problem and will be until he does something to get himself canned, which unfortunately may not happen. I don't think the Steinbrenner sons are dictators like their father. I think they're worse because they clearly don't have the guts or brains to make decisions on their own. Say what you want about George, at least when he was younger he was a man, he's make his decision, right or wrong and stick to it. His sons don't have that trait.

    Levine controlling that whole sickening conference call showed who's the head of this organization right now and I don't like where we're going if that fool is in charge.

  • At 6:54 AM, Anonymous YankeesRool said…

    People need to write to Levine and Cash and the baby Steins and tell them this is NOT OKAY. There needs to be a groundswell of opposition. Flood Levine's mailbox at Akin Gump. Send email to all the Steinbabies. Tell them this stuff has got to END. Resign Joe, Mo, Po, and Pettitte.

    Maybe they're taking a hard stand to show Boras they are not playing about the free agent thing, but how many people are going to get toasted in the meantime? Not good. Not good at all.

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