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Don't Deny It |
Friday, August 17, 2007 |
Being that I am the Yankees Chick and not merely the "Baseball Bitch", "Sports Sistah", or "Athletes Afficionada" (and now that I think about it, consider those all pending copyright), I clearly have a strong love for the Yanks and a bit of a homer bias. However, as I have mentioned many times on this here bloggity, I pride myself on being as fair as possible - I don't make excuses when one of my boys is utterly useless (Farnsworthless), and I absolutely give credit to other teams where credit is due, even the evil (possibly terrorist) organization known as the Boston Red Sox. Like most people I have been disappointed with the Yankees' overall performance this year, and honestly I've been surprised at the way the Red Sox keep winning, because I really do think the Yankees are the better team! Could I be wrong? Come on now, is the Yankees Chick ever wrong (don't answer that)? Let's take a gander at both teams' respective roster, position for position, tit for tat, and if you still have some doubts about which team is truly superior - record aside, obv - give me a reason. Prove yourself. I dare ya!
Position | Bomber | Saaaaawx | Advantage | 1B | Platoonville: (Giambi, Phillips, Dougy, Phelps, Cairo, Betemit, Me, You, a homeless dude they found on the streets...) | Youkilis | Sox. Sorry platoon. | 2B | Cano | Pedroia | Yankees. Pedroia has picked it up, no doubt about it, but Cano is the real deal and just keeps getting better | SS | Jeterjeterpumpkineater | Julio Lugo | Yankees. Come on now Saaaawx fans, you aren't that delusional.
| 3B | A-Rod | Lowell | Another non-argument. Yankees. | LF | Matsui | Manny | I hate that fat toad, but I'll give it to the Sox :( | CF | Melky | Coco | Yankees (and I am trying very hard to avoid making a really stupid cereal-related joke involving Coco Crisp and Melky. Failed.) | RF | Abreu | JD Drew | Yankees. They were both in slumpsville earlier on, but now Abreu is good and Drew still sucks. | C | Posada | Varitek | Yankees. NO competition here. | DH | Giambi | Fatass Papi | Fatass Sox | Bench | Damon, Duncan, Betemit, Molina | Pena, Hinske, Cora, Mirabelli | Yanks. Mirabelli is useless (way to drop him and then trade Meredith and Bard to the Padres to get back a .204 backup catcher), Hinske has like 2 hits all year, Wily Mo has a cool name but an OBP of .291... | Starting Pitching | Uh. 239083 different dudes | Beckett, Dice-K, Schilling, Wakefield, Lester | Sawx. Sin duda, amigos | Relief Pitching | Too bad Joba and Mariano can't be cloned a few times | Okajima, Papelbon, Timlin, Delcarmen... | Sox. Grumble |
Are there any arguments here? I am not imagining all those Yankees advantages, am I? Then WHY, pray tell, have the Yankees lost so many more games than the Sox?! Can we blame it all on the injuries? Is it just an attitude issue? These aren't rhetorical questions; I want answers. Well really, I want wins.
Labels: jobamania, red sox rivalry |
posted by Yankees Chick @ Friday, August 17, 2007 |
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I agree with your analysis - except for Manny being better than Matsui. Puhlease.
My theory about why the Sawx have won more games is because they act more like a TEAM than a collection of individuals. As you noted, individually the Yanks are superior - but as a team? Apparently not. Hopefully we can turn that around.
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I am sure you knew I'd respond back being the one Sox fan who reads and enjoys your stuff.
I agree with most of your analysis with two exceptions.
As far as the Posada/Varitek goes I think if you look at it Varitek is better behind the plate as far as calling a game. Posada is a better hitter.
I wholeheartedly disagree with Melky being a better CF. Have you seen Coco's defense? Plus he is hitting now.
But overall I think you're spot on with everything else.
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The answer is: Pitching. And if the Yankees were not the superior team otherwise, the Boston would have them buried.
A note on Farnsworth. Yes, he's Farnsworth. Yes, he still carries all the baggage which comes with being Farnsworth. That being said, he's piching well of late and if he can continue to do so, Joe can put him into games that aren't long over and he can be a big factor in the W column for the next month and a half. And beyond.
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What Mark said. And you've got it right there on your chart -- pitching, both starting and the pen. But the Yanks have moved within striking distance, and we've got six games left with the Evil Sox before the season ends. Should be fun...
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Baseball is a team effort.. granted its over loaded with individual stats... good pitching means squat if the bats aren't swinging. Same with the reverse. Sawx may be the lesser in the stats, but when the bats and pitching are in sync the team wins.
Your picks are pretty accurate.. and if the yanks could start playing team baseball it be better... (by team ball I mean more RBI's then homers)
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The reasons are simple, and it has nothing to do with intangible bullshit, which is just that: bullshit.
1) As you said, the Yankees have run half the universe out onto the pitching mound to start a game. The rotation still hasn't settled down.
2) The bench you list has only been true for about a month. Earlier in the year, the bench was Cairo, Nieves, Phelps, and whichever AAA player Torre was ignoring this week.
3) Giambi is the DH now, but for a long time it was Damon.
4) The bullpen remains a work in progress.
Ultimately, yes, it's the injuries, combined with too much time spent on such failed experiments as Miguel Cairo, Starting First Baseman; Kei Igawa, Starting Pitcher; Kyle Farnsworth, Eighth-Inning Pitcher; Wil Nieves, Backup Catcher; and, my personal favorite, Carl Pavano, Opening-Day Pitcher.
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I can go with some of those - but you can't say "NO" competion for the catching spot. But yes, Jorge is having a damn fine year. And I disagree on center. Coco is having a very, very good year and defensively he's one of the best in the game. And I'd call Cano/Pedroia a push, with a slight edge to Dustin. Both teams are evenly matched, EXCEPT WHERE IT MATTERS - PITCHING!!
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it think it definitely comes down to pitching. our offense is finally looking up and hitting like they should be, but the bosox starting pitching and bullpen is ridiculously strong. ours... is not :(
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Gotta go with Godzilla over Manny.
Porn king vs teammate fondler, no contest.
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I agree with your analysis on position players (except Matsui over Manny this year) and with everybody who is pointing out that pitching is what makes the difference. I will only add that Boston ISN'T playing better, or even particularly well, since mid-June. The lead is the legacy of a great start, and the difference-maker - pitching - is shifting our way. Schilling is less effective since coming back, and Boston went out and bought their own Farnsworthless, while ours is somehow less worthless and more Farns lately. Things look up.
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Ian, you aren't the only Sox fan who reads the site. It's always good to know your enemy after all.
Going 20-8 in May has saved the Sox' season up to this point. They're still a few games under their Projected Wins record, but the Yanks are SEVEN games below their Pwins level. That's more from their staggering offensive (in more ways than one) output than anything else.
And for some inexplicable reason, the Red Sox are 47-23 with Lugo hitting leadoff, 26-26 when he doesn't.
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So....anyone got the pitching matchups for the LAA series? please share. thanks!
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So....anyone got the pitching matchups for the LAA series?
Monday: Phil Hughes vs. Dustin Moseley Tuesday: Mike Mussina vs. Kelvim Escobar Wednesday: Andy Pettitte vs. John Lackey
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Jeez. Not the L.A. "Yankee killing" Angels. Let's hope we turn it around vs. them!
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Errr... regarding the pitching on the Saux being superior... have you been watching the two teams lately?
4 games back after being over 14 game back is big. The Saux are playing .500 ball right now. The Yankees are playing .700.
Okijima is a great pitcher this year. Papelbon, while effective is tough to have as a closer because he doesn't get used two games in a row. That is a liability.
If you are talking about the Yankee team that started this season, then the RS have the edge, but not if you are talking about the rebuilt team.
Hughes should take a win tonight. Mussina will probably give it to the Angels, then Lackey will tank as he did to the Saux. A series win. Again.
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Thanks for the matchups. Speaking of pitching, have you seen who Tampa's marching out there? Kazmir vs Wakefield is likely to go in our favor (though who knows with those Devil Rays), but other than that, two no-namers are starting the other 2 games. The scrub facing Matsuzaka is 3-12 or something close to that. Sigh.
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thanks to the soothsayers who stated that Hughes should win and Wake should lose. Way to nail 'em. And, you know, Wake's past record against TB should have had ZERO impact on that prediction. hahaha.
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I agree with Dale, come on, Matsui loses to Manny? Manny could phone it in from home and still play just as well.
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Matsui: AVG .293 HR 23 RBI 91 OPS .870
Ramirez: AVG .292 HR 20 RBI 86 OPS .880
Very similar numbers but Matsui was injured early in the year let still has more hr and rbi.
Because the yankees have a good head to head matchup with that line up with that lineup they have dominated the sox head to head.
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I agree with your analysis - except for Manny being better than Matsui. Puhlease.
My theory about why the Sawx have won more games is because they act more like a TEAM than a collection of individuals. As you noted, individually the Yanks are superior - but as a team? Apparently not. Hopefully we can turn that around.